CUB SURVEY ANSWERS

Number of Entries: 55


Answers from Clarke Green on June 15, 2015 at 9:49 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? I think the way we have set things up with totally separate units for Cub Packs, Scout Troops, and Venture Crews is the source of many difficulties. Our volunteers tend to move on with their children, leaving cub packs with the least experienced volunteers. Few parents and cubs have nay understanding of the the other age divisions in Scouting, and they can’t see beyond what they are doing at the moment or how it is connected to what happens in the years to come. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? A common committee for Packs, Troops, and Crews, sharing experience and resources, emphasizing the continuity of the whole Scouting program. Comment on Clarke Green’s answer

Answers from Clarke Green on June 15, 2015 at 9:49 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? I think the way we have set things up with totally separate units for Cub Packs, Scout Troops, and Venture Crews is the source of many difficulties. Our volunteers tend to move on with their children, leaving cub packs with the least experienced volunteers. Few parents and cubs have nay understanding of the the other age divisions in Scouting, and they can’t see beyond what they are doing at the moment or how it is connected to what happens in the years to come. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? A common committee for Packs, Troops, and Crews, sharing experience and resources, emphasizing the continuity of the whole Scouting program. Comment on Clarke Green’s answer


Answers from Mike on June 15, 2015 at 1:09 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Making Pack Meeting as a business meeting would be just announcements and not much else. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make it fun for the boys and get them involve Dinga skits and cheers to start. Comment on Mike’s answer


Answers from Craig Dickson on June 15, 2015 at 1:35 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not recruiting strongly – assuming either that kids will come because they always have, or that they won’t because they have too many other activities. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make recruiting the most important single job that the Committee chair oversees. That doesn’t mean do it yourself of course, but it certainly deserves as much attention as planning camping or selling popcorn. It’s a job for your absolute best volunteer. Comment on Craig Dickson’s answer

Answers from Craig Dickson on June 15, 2015 at 1:35 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not recruiting strongly – assuming either that kids will come because they always have, or that they won’t because they have too many other activities. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make recruiting the most important single job that the Committee chair oversees. That doesn’t mean do it yourself of course, but it certainly deserves as much attention as planning camping or selling popcorn. It’s a job for your absolute best volunteer. Comment on Craig Dickson’s answer


Answers from Robert Simpkins on June 16, 2015 at 8:40 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Lack of adult participation. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? I’m not sure, but having strong cub Master and Committee chair go a long way to building the relationships with parents and other potential adults. More recruiting of new boys can improve the pool of potential leaders. Comment on Robert Simpkins’s answer

Answers from Robert Simpkins on June 16, 2015 at 8:40 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Lack of adult participation. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? I’m not sure, but having strong cub Master and Committee chair go a long way to building the relationships with parents and other potential adults. More recruiting of new boys can improve the pool of potential leaders. Comment on Robert Simpkins’s answer


Answers from Julie Rash on June 16, 2015 at 11:58 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not knowing where their money is spent and how much the pack needs to save each year for larger purchases. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Have the Treasurer track in a spreadsheet each income and expense by categories (camping, advancements, library, website, dues/recharter, t-shirts, equipment, etc.) Comment on Julie Rash’s answer

Answers from Julie Rash on June 16, 2015 at 11:58 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not knowing where their money is spent and how much the pack needs to save each year for larger purchases. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Have the Treasurer track in a spreadsheet each income and expense by categories (camping, advancements, library, website, dues/recharter, t-shirts, equipment, etc.) Comment on Julie Rash’s answer


Answers from Michael Menninger on June 16, 2015 at 12:23 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not recruiting and/or requiring enough parents to be in leadership or pseudo-leaderhip positions so that the few leaders that are working do too much, get burned out and can’t provide a good program. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. When talking with the parents about the program before or during sign up, tell them how much the pack relies on ALL parents to chip in either as registered or non-registered leaders. 2. Making it almost a “requirement” that parents work in some aspect in the program. 3. Letting some event NOT happen when there’s no one to step up to run/lead/organize it. Or if someone was the leader and things didn’t get done, then that (non critical event to the program) just doesn’t happen. Comment on Michael Menninger’s answer

Answers from Michael Menninger on June 16, 2015 at 12:23 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not recruiting and/or requiring enough parents to be in leadership or pseudo-leaderhip positions so that the few leaders that are working do too much, get burned out and can’t provide a good program. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. When talking with the parents about the program before or during sign up, tell them how much the pack relies on ALL parents to chip in either as registered or non-registered leaders. 2. Making it almost a “requirement” that parents work in some aspect in the program. 3. Letting some event NOT happen when there’s no one to step up to run/lead/organize it. Or if someone was the leader and things didn’t get done, then that (non critical event to the program) just doesn’t happen. Comment on Michael Menninger’s answer


Answers from Iain Abernathy on June 16, 2015 at 12:37 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not following through with recruiting leads, or not following through often enough. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? At all events in view of the public have something to take names, phone number, and email address. Make sure that gets to the person who will follow through, and make sure they know to continue checking in several times. Comment on Iain Abernathy’s answer

Answers from Iain Abernathy on June 16, 2015 at 12:37 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not following through with recruiting leads, or not following through often enough. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? At all events in view of the public have something to take names, phone number, and email address. Make sure that gets to the person who will follow through, and make sure they know to continue checking in several times. Comment on Iain Abernathy’s answer


Answers from Nicole on June 16, 2015 at 12:45 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Parents lose sight of what’s important - the boys- and make it about themselves and achievements for themselves and not the kids. Alot of the adults are selfish and petty. They argue and one up eachother and it makes for a horribly stressful environment. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? We quit the pack and no longer have these problems. Moved on to another unit that u fortunately is gearing up for the same mistakes. It is very sad. Comment on Nicole’s answer

Answers from Nicole on June 16, 2015 at 12:45 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Parents lose sight of what’s important - the boys- and make it about themselves and achievements for themselves and not the kids. Alot of the adults are selfish and petty. They argue and one up eachother and it makes for a horribly stressful environment. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? We quit the pack and no longer have these problems. Moved on to another unit that u fortunately is gearing up for the same mistakes. It is very sad. Comment on Nicole’s answer


Answers from Jim Lorkowski on June 16, 2015 at 1:40 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Accepting low attendance by parents at pack meetings. This quickly leads to problems in all pack activities. 2. No outdoor program. 3. Not using den chiefs. 4. Not taking part in a cub day camp. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Make it clear to the parents when a boy first joins the pack that Cub Scouting is a family activity. The absolute minimum required by the pack is the participation of at least one parent or substitute at each pack meeting. Eventually, after attending a few meetings, almost everyone recognizes the need, and the joy in helping, and volunteers to do something. Everyone benefits. 2. Hold a Pack family at a state park (restrooms) once a year. 3. Approach more than one troop if needed. Read a Den Chief Handbook before you ask. 4. Go…fun activities and lots of new faces. Comment on Jim Lorkowski’s answer

Answers from Jim Lorkowski on June 16, 2015 at 1:40 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Accepting low attendance by parents at pack meetings. This quickly leads to problems in all pack activities. 2. No outdoor program. 3. Not using den chiefs. 4. Not taking part in a cub day camp. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Make it clear to the parents when a boy first joins the pack that Cub Scouting is a family activity. The absolute minimum required by the pack is the participation of at least one parent or substitute at each pack meeting. Eventually, after attending a few meetings, almost everyone recognizes the need, and the joy in helping, and volunteers to do something. Everyone benefits. 2. Hold a Pack family at a state park (restrooms) once a year. 3. Approach more than one troop if needed. Read a Den Chief Handbook before you ask. 4. Go…fun activities and lots of new faces. Comment on Jim Lorkowski’s answer


Answers from Terry Dutton on June 16, 2015 at 1:47 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not having an age-progressive program to keep boys engaged over the several years of cub scouting. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Have age-appropriate programming that is DIFFERENT for the different aged-boys. Webelos should be doing different activities than tigers and bears. Comment on Terry Dutton’s answer

Answers from Terry Dutton on June 16, 2015 at 1:47 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not having an age-progressive program to keep boys engaged over the several years of cub scouting. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Have age-appropriate programming that is DIFFERENT for the different aged-boys. Webelos should be doing different activities than tigers and bears. Comment on Terry Dutton’s answer


Answers from Dan Gorski on June 16, 2015 at 2:11 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Having a boring and uneventful program. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Proper planning and having the “right” seats on the bus filled. ….and make sure they are trained. Comment on Dan Gorski’s answer


Answers from Shawn Bergman on June 16, 2015 at 3:21 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not removing inefficient leaders What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Two way feedback Comment on Shawn Bergman’s answer


Answers from Roberta on June 16, 2015 at 5:34 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Lack of organization. Boys running wild with little to now guidance. Boys bored. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Have a set plan and make everyone follow the plan. Comment on Roberta’s answer


Answers from Jonathan Wade on June 16, 2015 at 8:45 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Focus to much on advancment and not enough on outings. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Get the boys involved in planning, ask them what they want to do. Comment on Jonathan Wade’s answer


Answers from Edzel on June 16, 2015 at 8:50 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Parents thinking they need to keep reinventing the program themselves 2. Scout leaders only focusing on their own dens or committee responsibilities. 3. Thinking that parents will respond to general calls for volunteers. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Encourage adults to seek out all the available information and training that previous generations of scouters have amassed. We have the internet now, it’s not that hard. 2. Leaders need to remember to make friends with everyone and help everywhere that they are able. These friendships are the bonds that keep families involved and give you resources to turn to when the Pack needs something done. Buy someone a cup of coffee once in a while. 3. Leaders need to always work to identify specific people for specific jobs and ask them personally for help. Parents are often more willing to do something if you ask them face to face. Start small. Have a leadership succession plan in place. Comment on Edzel’s answer

Answers from Edzel on June 16, 2015 at 8:50 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Parents thinking they need to keep reinventing the program themselves 2. Scout leaders only focusing on their own dens or committee responsibilities. 3. Thinking that parents will respond to general calls for volunteers. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Encourage adults to seek out all the available information and training that previous generations of scouters have amassed. We have the internet now, it’s not that hard. 2. Leaders need to remember to make friends with everyone and help everywhere that they are able. These friendships are the bonds that keep families involved and give you resources to turn to when the Pack needs something done. Buy someone a cup of coffee once in a while. 3. Leaders need to always work to identify specific people for specific jobs and ask them personally for help. Parents are often more willing to do something if you ask them face to face. Start small. Have a leadership succession plan in place. Comment on Edzel’s answer


Answers from Michael Hartford on June 16, 2015 at 8:53 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Lack of succession planning - who will fill critical roles when Scouts cross over? What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Identify future pack leaders early (Lions’ and Tigers’ parents) and start putting them into roles like assistant Cubmaster, helping to run fundraisers, Pinewood Derby judges, etc. Comment on Michael Hartford’s answer

Answers from Michael Hartford on June 16, 2015 at 8:53 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Lack of succession planning - who will fill critical roles when Scouts cross over? What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Identify future pack leaders early (Lions’ and Tigers’ parents) and start putting them into roles like assistant Cubmaster, helping to run fundraisers, Pinewood Derby judges, etc. Comment on Michael Hartford’s answer


Answers from Laurie Lottman on June 16, 2015 at 9:34 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not making a plan B for the weather. Then everyone either splits up or runs amuck. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Always come up with alternet ideas. Minute to win it contest. Rope tying demonstration. Comment on Laurie Lottman’s answer


Answers from Tony LaCava on June 16, 2015 at 9:59 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Failing to use pizzazz to keep the meetings fun. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Find your pizzazz!!! Think like a boy would think. Be a man though. It’s ok to be silly and funny. Comment on Tony LaCava’s answer


Answers from Jeff Hyer on June 16, 2015 at 10:00 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not doing enough engaging with the Cub parents. Den meetings and Pack meetings engage with the boys, while nobody engages with the parents to keep the up to date with events, pack needs, and where they can contribute talents. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Having dedicated time at pack meetings to engage parents with their questions, and ask for their help. Committee chairs need to be available at these times to. Also the Cubmaster needs to schedule visits to den meetings to talk with parents. They need to know who the Cubmaster is as a leader and how important their involvement is in the operation of the Pack Comment on Jeff Hyer’s answer

Answers from Jeff Hyer on June 16, 2015 at 10:00 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not doing enough engaging with the Cub parents. Den meetings and Pack meetings engage with the boys, while nobody engages with the parents to keep the up to date with events, pack needs, and where they can contribute talents. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Having dedicated time at pack meetings to engage parents with their questions, and ask for their help. Committee chairs need to be available at these times to. Also the Cubmaster needs to schedule visits to den meetings to talk with parents. They need to know who the Cubmaster is as a leader and how important their involvement is in the operation of the Pack Comment on Jeff Hyer’s answer


Answers from Dave on June 16, 2015 at 11:15 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? We were initially apart of a super Pack. Multiple dens at every rank,. They had assigned seating that had the youngest scouts at the back. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? have the youngest scouts sit up front for pack meetings with the eldest scouts behind them to help maintain control. Comment on Dave’s answer

Answers from Dave on June 16, 2015 at 11:15 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? We were initially apart of a super Pack. Multiple dens at every rank,. They had assigned seating that had the youngest scouts at the back. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? have the youngest scouts sit up front for pack meetings with the eldest scouts behind them to help maintain control. Comment on Dave’s answer


Answers from Dwayne McCoy on June 16, 2015 at 11:28 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Money from fund raisers, ie popcorn, being skimmed by a leader. 2. Too few leaders doing too much and who are anti-council/district. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Pack committee having close and transparent oversight of fundraising. Money turned in weekly instead of stored at one person’s house. Two signers on checks and counting money. Monthly treasurer reports at committee meeting. 2. Recruit more leaders and get them trained. Better relations between the pack, charter organization representative, unit commissioner, and district/council executives. Comment on Dwayne McCoy’s answer

Answers from Dwayne McCoy on June 16, 2015 at 11:28 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Money from fund raisers, ie popcorn, being skimmed by a leader. 2. Too few leaders doing too much and who are anti-council/district. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Pack committee having close and transparent oversight of fundraising. Money turned in weekly instead of stored at one person’s house. Two signers on checks and counting money. Monthly treasurer reports at committee meeting. 2. Recruit more leaders and get them trained. Better relations between the pack, charter organization representative, unit commissioner, and district/council executives. Comment on Dwayne McCoy’s answer


Answers from Jody Brown on June 16, 2015 at 11:52 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Poor planning by enthusiastic but untrained leaders. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make sure that all leaders are trained to do the job they have and include them in the planning process. Listen to all ideas that are offered and put into motion the best plan that the group comes up with. Leaders will work harder to ensure success if there is a sense of ownership and not duty to just follow orders. Comment on Jody Brown’s answer

Answers from Jody Brown on June 16, 2015 at 11:52 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Poor planning by enthusiastic but untrained leaders. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make sure that all leaders are trained to do the job they have and include them in the planning process. Listen to all ideas that are offered and put into motion the best plan that the group comes up with. Leaders will work harder to ensure success if there is a sense of ownership and not duty to just follow orders. Comment on Jody Brown’s answer


Answers from Michael Durbin on June 17, 2015 at 9:15 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not thoroughly communicating with the parents. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Better communication is key. Don’t assume everyone knows something is happening because it’s the way you’ve always done it. There’s always an adult that has never been a scout and is experiencing it for the first time with their son. If they get disengaged, they’ll stop participating and bringing their son. Comment on Michael Durbin’s answer

Answers from Michael Durbin on June 17, 2015 at 9:15 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not thoroughly communicating with the parents. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Better communication is key. Don’t assume everyone knows something is happening because it’s the way you’ve always done it. There’s always an adult that has never been a scout and is experiencing it for the first time with their son. If they get disengaged, they’ll stop participating and bringing their son. Comment on Michael Durbin’s answer


Answers from Eugene e Goss on June 17, 2015 at 9:19 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? One person doing too many things… What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Enlist as many parents as possible. Utilize 100 point volunteer system Comment on Eugene e Goss’s answer


Answers from Tim Smith on June 17, 2015 at 9:20 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Cubmaster holding down too many responsibilities. This is based solely on my experience as a Cubmaster when my son was in the Pack. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Get more parental involvement. I think this is a terminal problem of the Cub Scout Program. It is incredibly hard to recruit parents to fill much needed volunteer positions. I don’t have a cure for the problem though. Things we do in the Troop don’t seem to work in the Pack. Comment on Tim Smith’s answer

Answers from Tim Smith on June 17, 2015 at 9:20 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Cubmaster holding down too many responsibilities. This is based solely on my experience as a Cubmaster when my son was in the Pack. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Get more parental involvement. I think this is a terminal problem of the Cub Scout Program. It is incredibly hard to recruit parents to fill much needed volunteer positions. I don’t have a cure for the problem though. Things we do in the Troop don’t seem to work in the Pack. Comment on Tim Smith’s answer


Answers from Chuck Baker, Cub Master- Pack 98, Chester County Council, PA on June 17, 2015 at 10:49 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Good leaders trying to do everything themselves, and not delegating or involving to other parents and leaders. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make this an open topic of of discussions among leaders and parents (Pack Parent Time, Committee Meetings, e-mails, etc.). Remind parents and leaders that it doesn’t have to be perfect, and allowing others to help and make mistakes is part of the learning and growing process for the leaders and parents. It allows the leaders to grow as leaders and not just doers, and helps to prevent burnout. It also show the Cubs that adults can and should participate and learn, and that its okay to try new things that you might not be good at. Comment on Chuck Baker, Cub Master- Pack 98, Chester County Council, PA’s answer

Answers from Chuck Baker, Cub Master- Pack 98, Chester County Council, PA on June 17, 2015 at 10:49 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Good leaders trying to do everything themselves, and not delegating or involving to other parents and leaders. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make this an open topic of of discussions among leaders and parents (Pack Parent Time, Committee Meetings, e-mails, etc.). Remind parents and leaders that it doesn’t have to be perfect, and allowing others to help and make mistakes is part of the learning and growing process for the leaders and parents. It allows the leaders to grow as leaders and not just doers, and helps to prevent burnout. It also show the Cubs that adults can and should participate and learn, and that its okay to try new things that you might not be good at. Comment on Chuck Baker, Cub Master- Pack 98, Chester County Council, PA’s answer


Answers from Erik Johnson on June 17, 2015 at 11:52 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Having one person trying to do everything. Planning, financial, running meeting and events. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Delegate, delegate and delegate. Ask parents do do the little things and then the nig. Comment on Erik Johnson’s answer


Answers from dave polacek on June 17, 2015 at 12:35 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? not recruiting replacements - not involving parents in some way reinventing the wheel What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? ask for help provide training make it fun Comment on dave polacek’s answer


Answers from richard witkowski on June 17, 2015 at 1:16 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Failure to recruite enough new boys each year What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Local councils should help more Comment on richard witkowski’s answer


Answers from Nic C on June 17, 2015 at 3:32 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Untrained leaders A lack of adequate planning A lack of volunteers Leaders trying to do too much rather than delegating What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Regular parent meetings, either at the Den or Pack level. Parents need to undersyand that Cub Scouts is not Day Care. There’s an expectation of participation from each adult. An expectation that every leader will be trained as soon as possible. Leaders that plan effectively and far enough in advance. They also have Plan B’s and contingencies accounted for. Comment on Nic C’s answer

Answers from Nic C on June 17, 2015 at 3:32 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Untrained leaders A lack of adequate planning A lack of volunteers Leaders trying to do too much rather than delegating What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Regular parent meetings, either at the Den or Pack level. Parents need to undersyand that Cub Scouts is not Day Care. There’s an expectation of participation from each adult. An expectation that every leader will be trained as soon as possible. Leaders that plan effectively and far enough in advance. They also have Plan B’s and contingencies accounted for. Comment on Nic C’s answer


Answers from Gary Schiappacasse on June 17, 2015 at 7:06 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? They get stuck on their pack traditions and do not allow for individual differences. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Be flexible. Honor the concept don’t get stuck in the details. Comment on Gary Schiappacasse’s answer


Answers from Van Donley on June 17, 2015 at 7:50 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Cub master and committee chair be the same person. Den meetings that look like a classroom instead of a series of fun activities and games. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? One job per person and try to avoid more than one family member in a key 3 position. Leaders should always ask the scouts if they are having fun and involve them in planning, even if the only appropriate input is for what the snack is going to be. Comment on Van Donley’s answer

Answers from Van Donley on June 17, 2015 at 7:50 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Cub master and committee chair be the same person. Den meetings that look like a classroom instead of a series of fun activities and games. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? One job per person and try to avoid more than one family member in a key 3 position. Leaders should always ask the scouts if they are having fun and involve them in planning, even if the only appropriate input is for what the snack is going to be. Comment on Van Donley’s answer


Answers from John on June 17, 2015 at 9:24 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Having a husband and wife as Cubmaster and Committee chair. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Don’t have your key 3 from the same family Comment on John’s answer


Answers from Brice ligget on June 17, 2015 at 9:34 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Failure to plan an exit strategy. If you don’t know who is replacing you, you are doing it wrong. Always be on the lookout for people that could fill your position. Know that they will come up with a different plan and let them execute when you hand over the reins. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Know when you are moving on and find a replacement two dens behind you. Comment on Brice ligget’s answer

Answers from Brice ligget on June 17, 2015 at 9:34 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Failure to plan an exit strategy. If you don’t know who is replacing you, you are doing it wrong. Always be on the lookout for people that could fill your position. Know that they will come up with a different plan and let them execute when you hand over the reins. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Know when you are moving on and find a replacement two dens behind you. Comment on Brice ligget’s answer


Answers from Chris Yates on June 17, 2015 at 9:36 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not providing a good program that keeps the boys active and excited about his Scouting experience What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Adults get trained and active in District and Council Comment on Chris Yates’s answer


Answers from Ian Davico on June 17, 2015 at 10:01 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not getting the parents more involved. The Family Talent Sheets are critical. Organization, Preparation and good communication. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Newsletter. Social Media. Email updates with upcoming events Comment on Ian Davico’s answer


Answers from Corrine Kallemeyn on June 17, 2015 at 10:04 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Not having enough parent involvement. 2. Having one person control the Pack and its events without help from the Pack Committee. 3. Making sure Den Leaders are well supported by the Cubmaster and being successful with helping the boys earn their advancements. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Having ALL parents sign up for at least one event/Pack meeting to share the responsibility. 2. Removing this person from the Pack Committee and getting a more well-rounded group of volunteers to help with the needs of the Pack. 3. Having monthly meetings or phone calls with each Den Leader. Making sure the lines of communication are always open. Be sure that Den Leaders trust the Cubmaster to help when they need it. Comment on Corrine Kallemeyn’s answer

Answers from Corrine Kallemeyn on June 17, 2015 at 10:04 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Not having enough parent involvement. 2. Having one person control the Pack and its events without help from the Pack Committee. 3. Making sure Den Leaders are well supported by the Cubmaster and being successful with helping the boys earn their advancements. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1. Having ALL parents sign up for at least one event/Pack meeting to share the responsibility. 2. Removing this person from the Pack Committee and getting a more well-rounded group of volunteers to help with the needs of the Pack. 3. Having monthly meetings or phone calls with each Den Leader. Making sure the lines of communication are always open. Be sure that Den Leaders trust the Cubmaster to help when they need it. Comment on Corrine Kallemeyn’s answer


Answers from Nicole on June 17, 2015 at 10:20 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not making the kids read what their requirements are and see how they met them. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make each scout start reading the book outloud Comment on Nicole’s answer


Answers from Melissa Romaniello on June 17, 2015 at 11:16 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1) Not making it fun/thinking outside the box 2) Not involving parents and siblings. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Think of the most fun ways to make advancements and do them. Don’t let the box stop you. And involve the cubbies’ family. The are a treasure trove of assistance. They want to help and they joined Scouts with their son. Comment on Melissa Romaniello’s answer

Answers from Melissa Romaniello on June 17, 2015 at 11:16 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1) Not making it fun/thinking outside the box 2) Not involving parents and siblings. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Think of the most fun ways to make advancements and do them. Don’t let the box stop you. And involve the cubbies’ family. The are a treasure trove of assistance. They want to help and they joined Scouts with their son. Comment on Melissa Romaniello’s answer


Answers from Melissa Romaniello on June 17, 2015 at 11:43 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1) Not making it fun/thinking outside the box 2) Not involving parents and siblings. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Think of the most fun ways to make advancements and do them. Don’t let the box stop you. And involve the cubbies’ family. The are a treasure trove of assistance. They want to help and they joined Scouts with their son. Comment on Melissa Romaniello’s answer

Answers from Melissa Romaniello on June 17, 2015 at 11:43 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1) Not making it fun/thinking outside the box 2) Not involving parents and siblings. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Think of the most fun ways to make advancements and do them. Don’t let the box stop you. And involve the cubbies’ family. The are a treasure trove of assistance. They want to help and they joined Scouts with their son. Comment on Melissa Romaniello’s answer


Answers from George Defond on June 18, 2015 at 7:24 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Failing to keep the program focused on the boys. Some of the adults have their own egos in mind when making decisions. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make sure all of the adults have the ability to speak up and be heard. If one person (Cubmaster or Comm Chair for example) has all of the power then their agenda is the only one being served. The rest of the committee and especially Den Leaders need to feel free to express their concerns. Comment on George Defond’s answer

Answers from George Defond on June 18, 2015 at 7:24 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Failing to keep the program focused on the boys. Some of the adults have their own egos in mind when making decisions. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make sure all of the adults have the ability to speak up and be heard. If one person (Cubmaster or Comm Chair for example) has all of the power then their agenda is the only one being served. The rest of the committee and especially Den Leaders need to feel free to express their concerns. Comment on George Defond’s answer


Answers from Robert Klekar on June 18, 2015 at 10:13 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Leaders not being provided the training by their District and Council trainrs they need to be successful leaders. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Provide this training and quit making excuses why this training can not be provided, especially when there are people who are willing to do this. Comment on Robert Klekar’s answer

Answers from Robert Klekar on June 18, 2015 at 10:13 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Leaders not being provided the training by their District and Council trainrs they need to be successful leaders. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Provide this training and quit making excuses why this training can not be provided, especially when there are people who are willing to do this. Comment on Robert Klekar’s answer


Answers from Cathy Montegna on June 18, 2015 at 4:40 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? When one person, or maybe one person and their spouse, takes on too much responsibility for the unit. It usually starts out innocently enough with the thought that “I can handle that this year” or “I’ll do that until we find someone else.” But what happens is that suddenly one or two people are doing almost everything and nobody else wants to take on their job, which is really three or four jobs. This leaves Packs with “burnt-out” leaders, or with a lack of leadership when this person moves on. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make sure that all of the families in a Pack understand that there are plenty of jobs and that everyone can help at some level. When a leader gives another adult a responsibility, don’t second guess them, let them do the job and offer support or guidance if they want it. If a leader really feels like they can’t get any help, ask your Commissioner for input and assistance. Sometimes having someone from outside the Pack come in helps people understand the importance of helping out. Comment on Cathy Montegna’s answer

Answers from Cathy Montegna on June 18, 2015 at 4:40 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? When one person, or maybe one person and their spouse, takes on too much responsibility for the unit. It usually starts out innocently enough with the thought that “I can handle that this year” or “I’ll do that until we find someone else.” But what happens is that suddenly one or two people are doing almost everything and nobody else wants to take on their job, which is really three or four jobs. This leaves Packs with “burnt-out” leaders, or with a lack of leadership when this person moves on. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make sure that all of the families in a Pack understand that there are plenty of jobs and that everyone can help at some level. When a leader gives another adult a responsibility, don’t second guess them, let them do the job and offer support or guidance if they want it. If a leader really feels like they can’t get any help, ask your Commissioner for input and assistance. Sometimes having someone from outside the Pack come in helps people understand the importance of helping out. Comment on Cathy Montegna’s answer


Answers from Lyle DeWalt Scoutmaster Troop 214 Cedar Rapids, IA on June 19, 2015 at 2:13 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not fully connecting with a Troop to utilize Den Chiefs and other resources; recruiting, leadership, etc. Along the same lines, not a lot of Packs take advantage of monthly roundtables. I see a lot of Packs (and Troops for that matter) where a handful of leaders try and do everything which leads to burnout and other issues. Also, Packs, Troops, Crews, etc. are NOT in competition with one another. It seems to be viewed that way sometimes. We’re all in this together. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Obviously to reach out to Troops, Adult leadership, and Council resources to network. Don’t forget about the unit commissioners too. A lot of times they are looked on as interference when they are actually there to assist. Comment on Lyle DeWalt Scoutmaster Troop 214 Cedar Rapids, IA’s answer

Answers from Lyle DeWalt Scoutmaster Troop 214 Cedar Rapids, IA on June 19, 2015 at 2:13 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not fully connecting with a Troop to utilize Den Chiefs and other resources; recruiting, leadership, etc. Along the same lines, not a lot of Packs take advantage of monthly roundtables. I see a lot of Packs (and Troops for that matter) where a handful of leaders try and do everything which leads to burnout and other issues. Also, Packs, Troops, Crews, etc. are NOT in competition with one another. It seems to be viewed that way sometimes. We’re all in this together. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Obviously to reach out to Troops, Adult leadership, and Council resources to network. Don’t forget about the unit commissioners too. A lot of times they are looked on as interference when they are actually there to assist. Comment on Lyle DeWalt Scoutmaster Troop 214 Cedar Rapids, IA’s answer


Answers from Brad Watts on June 19, 2015 at 4:03 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1) burning out leaders 2) boring pack meetings with too much talking 3) combined B&G/AOL/crossover events What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1) set expectations early that every parent should help in some way. Set rules of thumb to reduce the time required for a leader to stay in a role. 2) better guidance and traing? 3) communicate a better model? Comment on Brad Watts’s answer

Answers from Brad Watts on June 19, 2015 at 4:03 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1) burning out leaders 2) boring pack meetings with too much talking 3) combined B&G/AOL/crossover events What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? 1) set expectations early that every parent should help in some way. Set rules of thumb to reduce the time required for a leader to stay in a role. 2) better guidance and traing? 3) communicate a better model? Comment on Brad Watts’s answer


Answers from Mark West on June 20, 2015 at 11:35 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Focusing exclusively on the academic/advancement aspects of the program. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Return to our roots, emphasize Scout Skills, get outside as often as possible, and provide meaningful activities that meet the needs and wants of our Scouts. Ignoring advancement would be a huge mistake but should not be the primary purpose of Scouting. Comment on Mark West’s answer

Answers from Mark West on June 20, 2015 at 11:35 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Focusing exclusively on the academic/advancement aspects of the program. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Return to our roots, emphasize Scout Skills, get outside as often as possible, and provide meaningful activities that meet the needs and wants of our Scouts. Ignoring advancement would be a huge mistake but should not be the primary purpose of Scouting. Comment on Mark West’s answer


Answers from Dave Smilie on June 22, 2015 at 12:38 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not seeking help from local Troops. Functioning as fractured Dens rather than as a cohesive Pack. Not recruiting enough or properly. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Reach out to the Troops and ask for help. Work together to improve program for all. Don’t be complacent. Recruit everywhere. Build a plan in June to implement in September. Comment on Dave Smilie’s answer

Answers from Dave Smilie on June 22, 2015 at 12:38 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not seeking help from local Troops. Functioning as fractured Dens rather than as a cohesive Pack. Not recruiting enough or properly. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Reach out to the Troops and ask for help. Work together to improve program for all. Don’t be complacent. Recruit everywhere. Build a plan in June to implement in September. Comment on Dave Smilie’s answer


Answers from Joe Prespare on June 24, 2015 at 7:03 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not taking the time to understand the scouting movement. Not working with other units to learn from one another. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Attend round tables. Get out and meet the pioneers Comment on Joe Prespare’s answer


Answers from Danny VanPelt on June 30, 2015 at 12:15 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Not involve the boys enough in basic tasks. like cooking and cleaning. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? duty rooster the dens. Comment on Danny VanPelt’s answer


Answers from Matt Higgins on June 30, 2015 at 12:38 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Give in to meeting with little frequency. Most packs meet once a month, but the dens only schedule two meetings a month and count the pack meeting. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Commit to having den meeting three times a month. Combined with the monthly pack meeting, this still works out to a small commitment compared to other youth activities. My kids play sports and do other activities too, but it’s Scouts that I know will have the biggest positive impact on them. Comment on Matt Higgins’s answer

Answers from Matt Higgins on June 30, 2015 at 12:38 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Give in to meeting with little frequency. Most packs meet once a month, but the dens only schedule two meetings a month and count the pack meeting. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Commit to having den meeting three times a month. Combined with the monthly pack meeting, this still works out to a small commitment compared to other youth activities. My kids play sports and do other activities too, but it’s Scouts that I know will have the biggest positive impact on them. Comment on Matt Higgins’s answer


Answers from Red Dog on June 30, 2015 at 2:29 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? failure to plan in a timely manner What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? annual planning a year in advance with quarterly in process reviews Comment on Red Dog’s answer


Answers from Justin day on July 3, 2015 at 8:31 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Repetitive or boring programs What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Program ahead Comment on Justin day’s answer

Answers from Rob Burnham on July 3, 2015 at 9:54 am What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? The leaders forget that we are dealing with kids of different ages. Some leaders might just be interested in advancement, but the cub scout just wants to have fun. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Be a kid, remember that the cub scout is there to have fun. Make it fun for kid & parent . Comment on Rob Burnham’s answer

Answers from Gretchen on July 19, 2015 at 8:28 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? having one person who says “I will do that” all the time. Don’t let them, and don’t let others let them. The pack will be much stronger if more people work on various aspects of the pack tasks. Also, make sure people “own” the job they are doing. Don’t rush in to rescue them. Parents won’t volunteer for anything if you rush in and say, “I’ll do it”. If no one volunteers, then say, “Well, that’s too bad. No one stepped up this year to coordinate the XYZ fair so we can’t do it.” What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? Make sure you appreciate those volunteers, offer guidance but resist taking over. If they need help, fine a co-coordinator to help them. Comment on Gretchen’s answer

Answers from Curtis Dorwart on August 1, 2015 at 1:26 pm What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? -Adults (leaders) focusing on “their kid” to the detriment of the unit and other boys -Effort to run the pack comes down to 1 or 2 adults -Trying to go way bigger, better, and more complicated with pack meetings and events. It is not sustainable. What are the biggest mistakes you have seen cub packs make? -Training! Understand the aims and methods -Good communication within the pack and core leadership (CM, CC etc) always be reaching out to engage parents for help in little ways (at first at least) and use every opportunity to explain the program and why things are done a certain way. Many hands make light work. -Sometimes you have to ‘fire’ a volunteer that resists effort to train and follow the program for the benefit of all the boys Comment on Curtis Dorwart’s answer

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